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kokolino · Post by **kokolino** » 22 Jun 2007, 10:21

[quote="ionut75"]Salut Kokolino,

Dar cand mergi in oras cu 55Km/h la 2500 turatii, cat consuma ?[/quote]

pai de la 13.2 scade cam la 11 si ceva. dar nu am putut sa merg mai mult timp asa sa vad pana unde ajunge, dar daca vroiam trotineta imi luam. In nici un caz nu o sa merg asa vreodata ca sa consume mai putin...

ionut75 · Post by **ionut75** » 22 Jun 2007, 10:28

Poate consumul ridicat il ai si de la calitatea benzinei. Vezi ca la OMV benzina de 95 este deja EUROIV.

catalin2804 · Post by **catalin2804** » 22 Jun 2007, 10:29

huh toata benzina e euro IV din cate stiu.

kokolino · Post by **kokolino** » 22 Jun 2007, 10:56

am fost indrumat de catre prieteni sa nu ii dau de prea multe ori peste 3000 de ture pana in primii 2000 km. adica sa nu fac 2 drumuri pe saptamana buc - c-ta peste 3000 de ture. Oricum eu o mai forjez ca sa nu se invete puturoasa..

ida01ro · Post by **ida01ro** » 22 Jun 2007, 19:44

va rog, cei care au 1,4 benzinar sa scrie aici consumurile pe care le-au inregistrat !! scurt si succint , va rog!

Vietnam · Post by **Vietnam** » 22 Jun 2007, 22:49

sau mai pe larg numai scrieti ceva .... nu va inghesuiti asa ca nu mai apucati sa scrieti ...

ida01ro · Post by **ida01ro** » 23 Jun 2007, 08:39

...se pare ca tre sa mai asteptam ca sa isi cumpere!

catalin2804 · Post by **catalin2804** » 23 Jun 2007, 10:14

am sa iti scriu eu cand vine in max 2 luni sper

.... ca vad ca nu se inghesuie lumea

Adevarul ca suntem o gasca de disperati care isi asteapta masinuta(nu stiu voi dar eu asa sunt).

ida01ro · Post by **ida01ro** » 23 Jun 2007, 13:34

atunci am sa scriu si io' !

sonty · Post by **sonty** » 23 Jun 2007, 14:38

ar mai lipsi doua elemente relativ importante din conditiile de masurare a consumului: distanta medie si viteza medie.
exemple:
- de-acasa la servici: 10km, din semafor in semafor, viteza medie 20km/h.
- de-acasa la socri: 1km, drept, 1km/h
- de la socri la fotbal: 20km, 5 semafoare, 80km/h

un 'drum' inseamna orice deplasare dupa ce masina a stat pe loc 30-60 de minute.

asdfgh · Post by **asdfgh** » 23 Jun 2007, 14:54

Consumul de 13l/100km este conjunctural:
1. cred ca atunci cand se calculeaza consumul urman la o masina se calculeaza intr-un oras normal, nu in Bucuresti (ca sa nu mai zic de zona Drumul Taberei-Razoare

)
2. masina este inca in rodaj si asta conteaza destul de mult;

ex: vara trecuta am facut o plimbare de vacanta cu hyundai-ul accent cu motorul de 1,4 97CP al parintilor mei care pe atunci avea 2000Km la bord. Am mers in jur de vreo 1100Km - consumul mediu a fost in jur de 8-8,5l/100 in conditii de 110-120Km/h cu AC pornit - excesiv de mult!
Anul asta, pe un drum mai scurt ce-i drept de vreo 200Km, masina a consumat cam 6,5l/100Km in aceleasi conditii de viteza + ac. Asta dupa o revizie la 7500Km, masina avand la bord vreo 14000Km acum.
Parerea mea este ca o sa scada consumul si la ceed odata cu timpul si km.

sonty · Post by **sonty** » 23 Jun 2007, 15:24

deci sapai un pic pe net sa aflu cum se calculeaza consumurile:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/28004-epa ... ained1.htm
http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/lex/LexUri ... 16:EN:HTML
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 41:EN:HTML

prima e valabila in state. apoi sunt directivele europene. prima directiva reglementeaza ce se testeaza. a doua reglementeaza modul de test. iata cateva citate:

din prima directiva

4.4. Test fuel
The appropriate reference fuels as defined in Annex VIII to Directive 91/441/EEC must be used for testing
5.1.1. The vehicle must be presented in good mechanical condition. It must have been run in and driven at least 3 000 kilometres, but less than 15 000 kilometres, before the test.
5.1.4. Before the test, the vehicle must be stored in a room where the temperature remains between 293 and 303 K (20 and 30 ?C). This conditioning period will last at least six hours and to a point where the temperature of the engine lube oil and the engine coolant are within ± 2 K of the room temperature. At the request of the manufacturer, the test may be conducted within a maximum of 30 hours after the vehicle has been used at normal temperature.
5.1.6. If the radiator fan is temperature controlled, it must be operating as it would normally on the vehicle. The passenger compartment heating system must not be operating, nor must the air conditioning system, although its compressor must be operating normally.
7.1. The fuel consumptions are calculated from the emissions of hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide calculated in accordance with paragraph 6.

din a doua directiva:

5.3.1.2.1. With the exception of vehicles referred to in 8.1, a test lasting a total of 19 minutes and 40 seconds, made up of two parts, One and Two, is performed without interruption. An unsampled period of not more than 20 seconds may, with the agreement of the manufacturer, be introduced between the end of Part One and the beginning of Part Two in order to facilitate adjustment of the test equipment.
5.3.1.2.2. Part One of the test is made up of four elementary urban cycles. Each elementary urban cycle comprises fifteen phases (idling, acceleration, steady speed, deceleration, etc.).
5.3.1.2.3. Part Two of the test is made up of one extra urban cycle. The extra urban cycle comprises 13 phases (idling, acceleration, steady speed, deceleration, etc.).
5.3.1.4. Subject to the requirements of 5.3.1.4.2 and 5.3.1.5 the test must be repeated three times.
2.3. Use of gearbox 2.3.1. If the maximum speed which can be attained in first gear is below 15 km/h, the second, third and fourth gears are used for the elementary urban cycles (Part One) and the second, third, fourth and fifth gears for the extra-urban cycle (Part Two). The second, third and fourth gears may also be used for the urban cycle (Part One) and the second, third, four and fifth gears for the extra-urban cycle (Part Two) when the driving instructions recommend starting in second gear on level ground, or when first gear is therein defined as a gear reserved for cross-country driving, crawling or towing.
2. ELEMENTARY URBAN CYCLE (PART ONE) See Figure III.1.2 and Table III.1.2.
Average speed during test : 19 km/h. Effective running time : 195 seconds. Theoretical distance covered per cycle : 1,013 km. Equivalent distance for the four cycles : 4,052 km.
3. EXTRA - URBAN CYCLE (Part Two) See Figure III.1.3 and Table III.1.3
Average speed during test : 62,6 km/h. Effective running time : 400 seconds. Theoretical distance covered per cycle : 6,955 km. Maximal speed : 120 km/h. Maximal acceleration : 0,833 m/s2. Maximal deceleration : - 1,389 m/s2.

deci in functie de testul urban sau extraurban ei pun o anumita incarcare pe masina, masoara gazele emise si de-acolo deduc cantitatea de combustibil consumat. de testat testeaza foarte multe intr-un interval foarte scurt, iar drumurile noastre cuprind in general doar cateva dintre conditiile testate de ei. asa ca... nu bat cifrele.

crispisu · Post by **crispisu** » 23 Jun 2007, 17:43

Salutare! As avea si eu o intrebare pt kokolino:la acel consum mediu de 13/100 ce viteza medie iti afiseaza computerul de bord?

kokolino · Post by **kokolino** » 25 Jun 2007, 11:40

crispisu wrote:Salutare! As avea si eu o intrebare pt kokolino:la acel consum mediu de 13/100 ce viteza medie iti afiseaza computerul de bord?

in jur de 15

Andrei Burcea · Post by **Andrei Burcea** » 25 Jun 2007, 14:04

Domnule Kokolino incercati sa resetati comp de bord pe funcita av ( medie), si deasemenea incercati ca in primi 500-1000km sa nu depasiti 3500 rpm, sfatul meu ar fi sa schimbati undeva in jur de 3000-maxim 3500, ( ca atunci cand schimbati sa nu scadeti sub 2500 rpm), cred ca nu ati resetat consumul de cand ati luat masina.... incercati sa-l resetati si spuneti-ne parerea dumneavoastra dupa aceea.
Va multumesc!

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pt cei care au 1,4 base numai !!