Ce ulei se "potriveste' motoarelor de CEED?

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Ce ulei se "potriveste' motoarelor de CEED?

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Proaspat posesor de Ceed - benzina 1.4 si din experienta cu alte masini si ale lor "service-uri dedicate" ... fiecare cu interesul lor ... intreb ce tip si marca de ulei se potriveste (in cazul meu) la motorul 1.4 benzina?
in "carte" ... inteleg ca 5W30 este potrivit ... fara a spune insa marca .... este ok!
din auzite (specialisti) ...... 10w40 ...Aral ...... parca nu seamana!!!
si din cate stiu acest 10w40 se pune la motoare mai obosite .....
de ex la logan si la majoritatea daewoo se merge tot pe ... 5W30 macar 100.000 km, deci?

ps....constient ca avem ....nspe ani garantie si cei ce pun uleiul sunt "de vina" daca ..... insa fiecare ulei are si el "calitatile lui' ... plus ca-l tinem 15.000 km sau un an ... ceea ce-l obliga la niste ... anduranta....
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Aici nu ai ce-i face, trebuie sa pui ulei de la ei, Aral,...parca.
De parca celor de la Mobil sau Valvoline le-ar fi murit puterile.
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PYFMAN wrote: in "carte" ... inteleg ca 5W30 este potrivit ... fara a spune insa marca .... este ok!
din auzite (specialisti) ...... 10w40 ...Aral ...... parca nu seamana!!!
si din cate stiu acest 10w40 se pune la motoare mai obosite .....
aral, castrol, valvoline, mobil... cam totuna. cam poti avea incredere ca uleiul din bidon corespunde specificatiilor. specificatia optima o alege producatorul in functie de ce forta are pompa de ulei, de turatiile normale pentru motorul ala, de dimensiunile canalelor de ungere si de temperaturile medii vara/iarna din tara de vanzare. daca vrei sa folosesti alt neam de ulei ideea e sa scazi prima cifra si s-o cresti pe-a doua, dar tre' sa fii sigur ca esti mai destept decat inginerii de-au facut motorul.
cel mai bun ulei pentru orice masina e 0w60 :). asta daca nu curge din ea :D
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sonty wrote: specificatia optima o alege producatorul in functie de ce forta are pompa de ulei, de ........


AI INTELES DAR .......... NU AI PRICEPUT ..........
producatorul "care este el".... KIA precizeaza in Manualul Ceed pt motoarele cu benzina urmatoarele uleiuri:
20w50
15w40
10w30
5w20
5w30

si jos la pct 1 recomanda 5w30, ulei ce eu l-am utilizat si la alte masini si ... e potrivit si la temperaturile din Romania.
IDEEA este ca 10w40 nu este in tabel adica nu este ales de producator (citat) ... asta vrut sa precizez. PUNCT

in rest .... indicele de v?scozitate, ce reprezinta 5w ce reprezinta 30 samd ...... chestii " destepte" sa-i lasam pe altii, ... de ex pe daewooclub.ro (Eu - posesor si de Matiz) sunt 200 de pagini cu discutia asta despre uleiuri.

PS daca poate cineva sa afle ce ulei ( marca mai putin ... cele doua cifre ce incadreaza W intereseaza) folosesc la service in Slovacia, si poate cu ce ulei vine si din fabrica, cu multumiri.
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aaaa, m-am prins acuma. io credeam ca e tot un topic despre uleiuri ce va deveni kilometric.
in conditiile astea... habar n-am ce-au avut cu saracul 10w40, daca tot au pus 15w40.
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singurul lucru pe care poate sa-l stabileasca producatorul si astia de la service este marca... in cazul de fata aral.... tipul uleiului abWcd se alege in functie de clima locului in care circula samanta. Pentru romania cele mai bune ar fi 5W30 si 10W30.
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"ps....constient ca avem ....nspe ani garantie si cei ce pun uleiul sunt "de vina" daca ..... insa fiecare ulei are si el "calitatile lui' ... plus ca-l tinem 15.000 km sau un an ... ceea ce-l obliga la niste ... anduranta...."

eu cred ca 15 000 km este prea mult pt un ulei indiferent de marca sau tip, si din cate imi amintesc parca scria in carte ca primul schimb se face la 7500 km
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Da, am citit si eu ca se face la 7500 km in conditii solicitante.

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La orice masina se spune ca in conditii de solicitare mai mare ptr masina, e bine ca revizia sa se faca la jumatatea intervalului normal. Insa solicitari mari ar insemna regim de taximetrie, de scoala de soferi, mers pe drumuri proaste si prafuite ... cam asa ceva
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Pentru "noua clima" din Romania 5W40 ARAL full synth.
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Gerula wrote:Pentru "noua clima" din Romania 5W40 ARAL full synth.
Am facut o intrebare si .....
Dear sir,

Regarding your question on cee'd gasoline engine oil recommendation, we can not say this is the best since it is quite
different by temperature range and customer's driving style.

If you look up the owner's manual in page 8-5 (Page 5 in Chapter 8), it has one table for SAE Viscosity related.

Of course low viscosity engine oil can help for better fuel consumption and decreasing engine operation noise but
it is quite expensive too.

For your reference, the cee'd engine oil from the Zilina factory is filled up with 5W-20 Viscosity in gasoline engine .

The best idea is discussing your local dealer and get the idea from them.

I hope this e-mail will be helpful.

Yours,

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de la service din craiova eu am primit informatia ca vor folosi mobil 1 de gradatie 5w30.

nici nu stiu daca 5w20 e de vanzare pe piata romaneasca.
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"One of the main reasons 5W-20 and 0W-20 was specified for your engine is to increase the CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) reported to the Federal Government. CAFE is the combined average fuel economy of all of a vehicle manufacturers product line. Minimum CAFE levels are specified by the Federal Government. In order for a vehicle manufacturer to continue selling profitable large trucks and SUV's, which typically have poor fuel mileage ratings, as compared to smaller cars, and still meet mandated CAFE requirements, they must also sell enough of the smaller cars which have much better fuel economy ratings to offset the poor fuel economy ratings of the larger vehicles. The change to a 5W-20 or 0W-20 oil will allow and an auto companies overall CAFE to increase by a very small amount, typically in the tenths of a mile per gallon range. 5W-20 or 0W-20 oil is a lighter viscosity than a 5W-30 oil and therefore has less internal engine frictional losses, or less drag on the crankshaft, pistons and valvetrain, which in turn promotes increased fuel economy. This increased fuel economy is virtually undetectable to the average motorist without the use of specialized engine monitoring and testing equipment under strictly controlled test track driving when compared to a 5W-30, 10W-30 or a 0W-30 viscosity motor oil. "
http://www.performanceoiltechnology.com/ford5w20.htm

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sonty wrote:de la service din craiova eu am primit informatia ca vor folosi mobil 1 de gradatie 5w30.
pentru o mai buna eficienta rog "colegii" forumisti care au in orasele lor service-uri kia sa formuleze si acolo cate o intrebare in ceea ce priveste uleiul folosit la ceed - benzina si evident diesel.


sa stim macar la ce sa ne asteptam .....................
apropo si daca aduc eu uleiul .... cum ramane cu garantia?
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